GIANT AND LIV Launch together
We have seen this bike already. (Sort of … Maybe … But not all of it, I guess …)

I just spent five hours with the folks at GIANT, LIV and CADEX on top of a roof-top bar in Adelaide, Australia at the big launch of a bike that I have seen in person twice already. I have seen this bike and you (the Slowtwitch) user, have seen this bike. At least I thought I had “seen” it.
In case you missed what I am talking about:
So back to me having to travel all the way to Australia for this … was the 27 hours crammed in the back of an airplane worth it? I think so.
The hard part of our job is that sometimes we don’t get to see the product for very long before we are asked to give our opinion of it to the masses. In this case, I never saw the final product until last night. I’m in my hotel room at the moment, very tired and the migraine from my travel here is still coming and going. I’m stuck in a hotel room until this article is up, so I just grabbed a coffee to see if that can help push me through.

Back to the launch event. Good day mate! The team is gearing up for the Tour Down Under, so we have professional male and female cyclists from the World Teams Jayco AlUla and Liv AlUla Jayco ready to do battle on new rides. (Sort of … some of the athletes have been on these machines for almost 12 months now.)

Professional Super Star Amber Pate

Professional rider Luke Plapp
In addition to some of the world’s best cyclists, we also have professional triathlete Emma Pallant-Browne (who, I might add, is currently tied with the GOAT, Daniella Ryf, for the most 70.3 wins ever – 22). All are talking about how they are riding this new gear is really working for them.

I might note that Emma also took the win for the most travel and the least amount of time in the city and, while I had to bring some camera gear, she had to pack her bike. (A true champion.)
THE 3 AMIGOS

Giant has been working on this new bike for eight years according to Andrew Juskaitis, Giant’s Global Product Marketing Manager. It’s also the first time that Giant, LIV and Cadex have ever launched a product together.
Over the last couple of months we have seen a lot of bikes launched in our industry. Cervelo, Ventum and Factor, to name a few. All are great additions to the options for our readers and, truth be told, all are bikes I would personally ride.
But none of them truly hit the nail on the head like our readers wanted. Some things ended up being considered “needs and wants” in the comment section. While you can’t please everyone all the time, I have noticed that some of the comments left on those pages are very valid.
GIANT, LIV, A CADEX HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD
A UCI legal TT bike with the adjustability and modula radd ons that offer everything a triathlete would ever need on a frame. And that goes for both men and women alike.
You heard that right … EVERYTHING A TRIATHLETE WOULD EVER NEED ON A FRAME.
Let’s start with the highlights of that frame:
- Disc brakes
- 558 grams lighter than the previous Trinity
- 12.6% more efficient than the previous Trinity (based on the new stiffness to weight ratio)
- Modular add ons
- Extended Reach

The Tri Frame
Modular seat post expansion

Considering the UCI restrictions the bike must meet, the need for more adjustably to allow one to come forward on the bike has been solved in two ways. There’s much more adjustability in the front, but there is also this little reversible seat post “Slot thingy.” (That’s what I’m going to call it.) This allows for a total of 51 mm of travel from rear to front, an 11-mm improvement over the first generation seat post. This is a very simple, yet well executed, piece of the puzzle.

Modular Adjustable Front End
You all are aware of my disdain for crappy front end design – I have talked about it over and over again. This happens when a bike company assumes that all riders can fit on a poorly designed, proprietary triathlon front end that ruins any chance that those riders will be able to feel good and go fast. While we’re still dealing with an integrated front end, Giant partnered with SYNC on this critical component and have done all they needed to with their own tooling. I’m not saying this is going to be perfect, but I do think that this approach is going to get 90 to 95% of the fits just right. With the different packaging offered for the TT and TRI set ups, Giant has come to the table with options based on real world numbers.

In this case they were able to achieve 24 times the adjustably compared to the last model. (In fact, they gave you so much adjustment you can even get in Gustav Iden’s over stretched position.)

(Bro, Buddy, Lets talk about this position. Call me you have my cell)
Modular Updated Wheel System
We wrote about the new wheels here.
The CADEX 4 spoke and Disc wheel are an excellent addition to the mix when it comes to the set up, especially considering the lateral stiffness of both wheels and bike is so great. The ability for riders to choose either 25c, 28c and the coming 30c tires that are specific to the hookless 22.4 internal rims allows for riders of all types to match the feel and speed they are looking for. (We are even riding these 4 spokes on soft gravel these days.) Pallant-Browne also noted that the front wheel hasn’t ever had any issues handling, even in heavy cross winds.

Modular Geometry That Works Across the Board

Of the major players in the space, LIV (which started in 2015) is one of the only women-championed bike companies still going, and is one of the only ones that has remained as a stand-alone brand. We all told those companies ages ago that, for the most part, geometry wasn’t the real issue when it came to men’s and women’s bikes. It was the lack of some sizes, and small adjustments that needed to be made overall. This launch has proven that idea was correct.
LIV (and parent Giant) nailed the front end design, and they made a XXS that still allows for great handling and 700 c wheels with all the tire clearances. And, being true to their support to the women, they gave this bike a really stylish look and feel and some unique personality. The only thing that was sad to see was they stopped at medium. Sorry, tall women, you are on the Navy Blue Giant.

FRAME GEOMETRY TRINITY
(UNITS IN MM UNLESS OTHERWISE INDICATED)
FRAME | XS | S | M | L |
Seat tube length | 465 | 495 | 525 | 550 |
Seat tube angle (Degrees) | 77 | 77 | 77 | 77 |
Seat tube offset | 103.5 | 108 | 113.2 | 123 |
Top tube length | 510 | 530 | 554 | 579 |
Head tube length | 85 | 105 | 125 | 145 |
Head tube angle (Degrees) | 72.0 | 73.0 | 73.0 | 73.0 |
Fork rake | 40 | 40 | 40 | 40 |
Trail | 69 | 63 | 63 | 63 |
Wheelbase | 974 | 988 | 1013 | 1039 |
Chainstay length | 405 | 405 | 405 | 405 |
Bottom bracket drop | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 |
Stack | 490 | 513 | 532 | 551 |
Reach | 397 | 412 | 432 | 452 |
Standover height | 758 | 786 | 814 | 838 |
Handlebar width | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 |
Stem length | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
Crank length | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
Wheel size | 700 | 700 | 700 | 700 |
Modular Plug and Play Hydration

“I want an internal water bladder, I NEED ONE,” screamed the Slowtwitch forum user “I need I must have.”
I mean, you don’t. But that’s just my opinion. Ultimately it doesn’t matter what my, or your, opinion is on that front. Because you can have one or not. You can use the big fat straw and haul that liquid up three feet of tubing, or you can put four bottles behind your seat. Giant made it possible to have either option thanks to well built and thought out hydration and snack holders that easily bolt directly to the frame, wherever you need them.

PRICE AND AVAILABILITY
Bikes will be shipping this month and, according to Juskaitis, the USA will see a "fair amount" of inventory on all three products.
MY25 Trinity Series Pricing | ||||||
Model | USA (USD) | Australia (AUD) | Canada (CAD) | U.K. (£) | Germany (€) | France (€) |
Trinity Advanced SL 0 | N/A | $15,999 | N/A | £10,499 | €11,999 | 12,000€ |
Trinity Advanced SL 1 | N/A | $10,999 | N/A | £8,249 | €8,999 | 9,600€ |
Trinity Advanced SL 2 | TBD | $8,999 | $9,999 | £6,499 | €7,199 | 7,500€ |
Trinity Advanced SL Tri Frameset | $4,400 | $6,999 | N/A | £3,749 | €4,199 | 4,400€ |
Trinity Advanced SL TT Frameset | $4,300 | $6,999 | $6,999 | £3,749 | N/A | 4,300€ |
Back to original question of was this trip really needed considering I have seen this bike twice already. The thing that I didnt realize until last night was the collective eco system that this launch included. Giant, Liv, and Cadex have done a really good job at creating something for everyone here. You and male and female alike and long distance and short course specialty all on the same “Frame”. They also did in a way that helps them keep waste and exposure from the project. Spending time with them taught me they are a global brand that understands how endurance athletes function across different spectrums of sport. Some of the major brands have lost that understanding. Im excited to get one of these at some point to actually ride.
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This looks like a solid update. Hopefully 30mm tyres fit easily and the bar and headset cabling isn’t terrible.
Any word on the Liv pricing and builds? You only have Giant models in the pricing table.
I’ve seen articles suggest a frame option only ‘initially’, which sounds like full bikes are coming. Any word on that, too?
Am I misreading that armpad stack/reach chart, or did the reach numbers actually go down significantly? Looks like the new bike maxes out at maybe 470mm pad x? That would be atrocious. Or does “length” mean something other than reach?
@E_DUB that is the same data I saw - showing that an L maxes at 455mm pad X for the tri config
This is like a new version of the Shiv tri rim brake and as I mentioned in the other thread - Giant will continue to keep aftermarket bar guys in business.
I would argue that this bike falls neatly into the group you disdain.
24 times more adjustable isn’t super useful when the only direction we can adjust is moving our elbows towards our crotch… And with a proprietary stem this bike should be DOA for any competitive triathlete. Unfortunate. No reason to get this over a dozen other disc brake tri bikes.
That’s because that is all we got…
I mean… look at the bright side. You get to “build” something
Surely that isn’t right. That is ridiculously short ?
Here is a comparison to a couple of other bikes whose frame xy is similar
Data for 0deg tilt, Speedmachine with short bar
Note that the Trinity offers two angled wedges, vs the other two bikes ranging 0-30deg (with parts native to their bar system)
And if we refer to an article from 2016 on this site we see a graph of what Slowman considered the reasonable range of positions at that time.
I’ve plotted the Trinity data (altered to pad centre) with the rough outline of Slowmans zones
I’ve fitted riders into positions all over that spectrum (and could defend the ones Slowman called into question). And I would have some riders that could use this Trinity. But not many.
So this is not really a bike for most riders, at least according to the presented info. And given that Slowmans guide is nearly a decade old, in which time more people have tested longer positions - there isn’t really any excuse for not giving a greater fit range
In your opinion, how did this happen ?
Here on ST people are clamoring more reach. I have heard bike brands acknowledge “there is a trend, maybe we should go slowly”.
But why would a brand go backwards in 2025 ?
I don’t think the UCI limitation is the answer.
I chuckled at “In fact, they gave you so much adjustment you can even get in Gustav Iden’s over stretched position”. Are the brands saying “go nuts with custom bars?”. Completely disgregarding the handling of the bike ?
Does this bike fit all those non ST MAMILs ? I heard the VP engineering of a another bike brand say “this bike was designed for 15hr Ironman that are sitting up in a lazy-boy”. I was kind of in shock, but maybe he is right
It really is a shame because here in Aus atleast, giant usually give a lot of bang for your buck. The lower grade versions of this bike will seemingly line up against the cervelo p series in cost. What you get for that dollar remains to be seen, but atleast it’s not an entry point of roughly 15 grand like a trek.
I’m still holding out hope that something isn’t lining up right with those reach figures.
Maybe I’m asking something stupid now but what is the general method of measuring pad reach? I see on the Giant website they measure till the centre of the pad, while on a few searches I did for other bikes the measement is till the back of the pad. This can easily make a difference of several centimeters?
This is interesting. I’ve not looked into it, but wonder if Giant has the old pad stack and reach measured to the center of the pad and the new Giant measured to the rear of the pad?
I think every manufacturer should measure from the back of the pad.
Hey Matt
I enjoyed your Taupo pro analysis articles. You seemed very ‘pro reach’ in your comments.
Is this a trend you see evolving and does the industry need to adjust as some here suggest?
Thanks for the feedback on the pro analysis articles.
To answer your question…I think generally, yes. If we told the majority of triathletes that you can bring your bars up and out to improve comfort without a decrease in performance…most folks would take that option.
Bike manufacturers are thinking about the masses vs outlier positions (I think they will become less outlier). They are also thinking about the UCI regulations. With that in mind, I believe they need to start thinking about how to safely make a bike that can not only work for UCI racers and laggards, but also get to these longer positions while also handling well.
Dan always used to say, get as much frame under you as possible. That is where the engineering resides…not in stem length and spacers, which you’re seeing the equivalent of now.
I’ll need to think a bit more on they best way for bike manufacturers to execute on this.
Over time it will, that is the reason Canyon now has a 115 mm stem base bar combo ready for the speedmax cf slx.
But the problem might be that all other things like wheelbase etc. stay the same.
My good guess is that smaller companies will adapt faster.
I work now with a factory and that bike will have a ‘surprising’ geometry.
Longer reach than any current model in the market and with some special hardware pad reaches even longer, super adjustable. Will arrive about June.
It is no longer a trend, this is here to stay. These positions have been taken over most of my tri-fits, without a single case everybody likes it. More comfort, more power and aero seems to be same or improving.
Jeroen