Making Nice with Nice
Even with men having competed in Nice in the inaugural edition of a European IM World Championship last year, a fair amount of curiosity still remained around what Nice is like as a world championship host as the women’s IM World Championship rolled around this past September.
My hope is that by sharing my experiences – both good and “could’ve been better” – I lift the shroud of mystery around this new host of the IM World Championships and clarify some common questions asked about the venue and experience.
My personal adventure in Nice was a tough one: it was actually my first-ever DNF in more than 15 years of triathlon, nine years of IMs and 14 Ironman start lines.
I faced a few unexpected challenges during race week (don’t we all), but perhaps most damning was the fact that I slipped and fell on a marble staircase a handful of days out from race day and landed right on my lower spine vertebrae, full force, no banister to catch me, on the edge of a stair and then proceeded to slide down six more stairs.
The ensuing bruise was pretty gnarly, as was the stiffness and pain. I got to the halfway point on the run and decided that’s enough Nice and triathlon for me for one week. No regrets, DNFs happen, my ego is less bruised than my low back.
Regardless of my unique race situation, I still had some takeaways about racing a World Championship in Nice. This was my third IM World Championship, the last two having been in Kona in 2022 and 2023.
I was curious to see what Nice was like, because they are so vastly different.
The oh-so-shocking gist is this: Nice is a World Champs-worthy course, that much has already been said and agreed on by the general triathlon population. It is not Kona, it is not trying to be Kona, we all need to get away from using Kona as our Holy Grail for a World Championship.
That being said, Nice was good but still had some drawbacks. Let’s dive into the “good” and the “what could be better.”
The Good
There are two obviously very good things about Nice. The first one is that it allows women to have their own race day (this is not dependent on Nice per se, but more so on a second World Champs location/separate race day) and the second one is that Nice is far easier to get to for most of the world than a tiny island in the Pacific Ocean.
The City
The lodging and dining options are extremely plentiful in Nice, so much so that you can stay there for well over a week and never repeat a cafe or brasserie twice if desired. I never had to wait more than a few minutes to be seated at a table to begin a meal, and as a pescatarian, I had plenty of seafood or vegetarian options at most places.
Nearly everything you could need is within walking distance, and there is really no reason to get a car given how plentiful Uber and taxis are should you need to go a bit farther. If you want to drive the bike course, renting a car for a day is easy and relatively inexpensive. On race day, there is no need to fret about where to park because you and your support crew will likely be able to walk to and from the race area.
The Race Course
Some people are saying that Nice is a harder course than Kona. I think they’re both challenging, but in very different ways.
Nice is more “traditionally” challenging in that its bike course packs in tons of elevation changes and a twisty descent and its run is a four-loop death march that truly tests one’s mental fortitude, even with the vibrant crowds in the miles near the Promenade.
Kona sneaks up on you. The bike course can have wicked wind, but even when it doesn’t, eventually the heat and exposure can leave even the best athletes feeling knackered, just in time to tackle a lonely, rolling marathon as you bake in the sun.
Let me say that a massive “good thing” about Nice was the volunteers. This is true for every triathlon I’ve ever done. Thank you to every volunteer who devoted some of their time to making this race, and the men’s race last year, possible.
The Nice swim was a lot more fun than Kona’s swim, in my opinion (all of this is just my opinion, remember). There were fewer sighting buoys between the turn buoys and that meant you could truly pick your own line and have fun with it. The intense swells this year on the Nice swim made for some pleasant adversity, too.
The bike course is epic, from the climb to the tundra-esque plateau to the ripping descent. I actually think that most age groupers would do well to consider doing this bike course on a road bike, which lowers the barrier to entry for some. In Kona, you most definitely need a time trial bike to be at your fastest.
The run is well-supported nearly the entire way of each lap, with the miles back towards town feeling like a big party. No lonely marathon vibes in Nice.
The Women-Only Vibe
I don’t think we can ever go back to having women and men pros race on the same day for an IM World Champs. It’s been proven now how epic it is to focus on the pro women in their own separate race; they can now get the full attention they deserve during an IM World Championship.
I also heard a lot of age group women saying they were glad not to be contending with male athletes on such a dynamic bike course, especially on the descent. To be surrounded only by fellow women was a relief, it seemed, for many toeing the line on Sunday.
Plus, this course gave women who don’t find success as easily in Kona the chance to find it on a hillier, colder, and more varied course. This is good for both pros and amateurs alike.
What Could Be Better
Just like with any large-scale event, there are always things that could be better, or that you wish were able to change but maybe can’t. As epic as the bike course was during the race, as well as all of the other good things I just listed, I still have a few gripes about IMWC Nice, too.
The City
Believe it or not, this was my first-ever trip to Europe (but not my first trip internationally), and a few things that may have been “givens” for those who have been to Europe were a bit of culture shock for me.
I think I experienced a bit of Paris Syndrome when I visited Nice. I was sold on crystal-clear blue waters, a quaint European experience, sunny skies and birds chirping with every step. Was I a bit naive to think this would all pan out? Yes, absolutely, but hindsight is 20/20.
For those coming from locales where cigarettes are not as common, Nice (and other parts of Europe in general, I’m told) may take a bit of getting used to. Cigarette smoking is part of the social culture in Nice, and most outdoor patios and pedestrian-filled streets brought with them a faint smokey haze that, at times, left me with a bit of a headache.
Additionally, elevators are the exception, not the rule in Nice (and again, in other parts of Europe). You should expect to utter a few expletives as you haul your bike box and other luggage through the narrow sidewalks and up a few flights of stairs. The mainstream hotels have elevators, but it’s unlikely your AirBnb or short-term rental will. If you travel with a companion, this will be less difficult than traveling solo as I was for my arrival and departure.
Neither of the things listed are insurmountable or trip-ruining obstacles, but are two things I wish I’d been more prepared for heading to Nice, so I share them in the hopes of apprising others who also may not be as familiar with France.
The Race Course
I have no real gripes about the swim course; I thought it was fun and a nice break from the typical rectangular swim courses of most IMs.
My biggest issue with the bike course was that it was ( for the most part) open to cars in both directions. From both pros and amateurs alike, I’ve heard and seen stories of far too many racers almost getting hit by cars during IMWC Nice this year. At one point, I had a van suddenly pull out in front of me on the descent and at that moment, I’ve never been happier to have disc brakes.
I do want to give credit where credit is due, which is the fact that IM successfully worked with all 17 of the small villages through which the bike course passes, getting permission to send more than a thousand cyclists through these tiny towns on a random Sunday in September. I can’t imagine such a feat in the U.S. or many other countries.
I’d like to see some improvements regarding traffic on the bike course; I don’t think we’ll ever see a fully closed course in Nice, but a bit more education about the event with regards to traffic flow in local areas could be helpful for drivers and cyclists alike.
A small gripe is that bike Personal Needs was super easy to miss, if you planned on using it. It was located on the opposite side of a roundabout and there was one sign a few feet before the roundabout notifying you of it. Of course, it is the athlete’s job to know the race course, but I think more signage beginning a half-mile or so before Personal Needs would be helpful.
A four-loop run is one loop too many, to me. And I’m one to talk, I DNF’d at the second loop! I don’t think there’s anything to be done about four loops, but whew, that’s a lot of times to run a flat 10km-ish lap.
I also want to note that while the crowd support was appreciated for the miles of the run course that ran parallel to the Promenade, the amount of spectators smoking cigarettes while cheering on athletes led to an uncomfortable amount of cigarette smell for an Ironman. And it’s not just me who thought this – 40-44 age group World Champion Jana Richtrova shared her thoughts about this on Instagram, too.
Again, not sure what can be done about that, but I was glad to hear I wasn’t the only one who thought the air quality of the run course was “meh” in that section.
The Women-Only Vibe
We’ve already established that gender-separated IM World Championships are both good for the sport and likely the way things are going to remain.
I think the question IM still needs to figure out is how to make a non-Kona location feel like a World Championship. Kona is so steeped in the lore of the 140.6 distance that it can be hard to build the same giddiness around another location, even one with the triathlon history of Nice.
Most amateur women I spoke with said that leading up to the race, it didn’t feel like a World Championship in terms of hype or marquee World Championship things like the race expo. After the race, many said the race was well-executed and fun, but didn’t have the same je ne sais quoi as Kona (check out that French!). Is this because Nice is so much larger than what we are used to on that little “Big Island”?
Does IM need to do more to promote the race locally in Nice so more businesses and residents are aware of it? Do athletes need to simply stop comparing “Kona vibes” to other race venues? Does the livestreamed coverage of race day need to be better?
A mix of answers to all of those questions can be considered, and I’m not sure of the solution, but I think those questions can and should be explored given that it’s unlikely we’ll ever return to a solely Kona World Championship location.
Closing Thoughts
My personal circumstances meant that, to be honest, I had a much more difficult time in Nice than I anticipated. I am just one athlete out of nearly 1,260 who started the race, though, and I know many women who absolutely loved their trip to the French Riviera.
There were a lot of very good things about Nice, from its convenient city layout to its breathtaking bike course. And, there were some things that could be better, like traffic control on the bike course on race day and continuing to focus on building increased hype around a non-Kona World Championship location.
IRONMAN sent out a women-focused survey to some earlier this year, and one of the questions on it was about one’s preferences for the future state of the World Championship: bring it back to Kona only, or continue to rotate locations.
I haven’t heard anything since I submitted my survey answers a few months ago, but it tells me that IM is still ideating on what the best solution is for the IM World Championships. Time will tell, but for now, I’m gearing up to cheer on the men in Kona – another perfectly imperfect location –
Great write up.
She does great work
So is “she” going to remain anonymous??? When reading I thought it was Ryan writing but the I remembered that Ryan is a guy and therefore could not have done the race. Just curious as to the name of the author.
If you click the link next to Originally published at, it shows her name.
We are working on gettin aurther over to these “posts”.
Ahhhh, now I see. Thanks!!!
Is part of the not-Kona part of the “WC feel” issue due to the fact that vendors have to split their marketing attention and some will choose Kona over Nice?
In other words, if the men’s race was also in Nice (or anywhere else for that matter) a few days earlier/later would it feel like a WC in that way? Presumably, then you’d get all the vendors in the same space again.
And is this unique to Nice or would it apply to a rotated WC as well?
In other words, how much is location and how much is split-venue?
@timbasile not to speak for Kristen but me persoanlly I think its part that and part the fact that you are now on this very LARGE landmass ( FRANCE )with way more space then KONA. With Kona triathlon litterlly takes over the place. Where in NICE we are like 10% of what is going on ( outside of race day when we shut down the entire water front)
Great, write-up. And I’d been somewhat interested in sharing my thoughts as well as someone else who raced there. I do agree with a lot of your points but maybe not as much on a few others. Although I also strongly agree that there are no easy answers as far as separating the genders for a WC event and giving women their own day, which also feels really important.
Preface: I’ve been in the sport for 20 years, 28x Ironman finishes in and outside the US, raced in Kona 4 times back in the mid-late 2000s, went to watch Kona 5 times during the 2010s, and raced there again in 2022 and 2023. I was not particularly interested in racing in Nice this year when it was announced, until we were given the opportunity to potentially qualify at a 70.3. Basically I did not want to be spending Ironman money (or time and effort to train) for 2 separate Ironman events when one wasn’t Kona. To be fair, after having raced in Kona 2 years in a row I also was not that interested in doing that if it had been in Kona again this year either. But if I could do it so Nice was my only Ironman in 2024, it became a lot more appealing. And I was fortunate enough to grab a slot after my race at Chattanooga 70.3.
I also want to say that whatever else I am about to say about the race, I was not disappointed with anything about it. I had a pretty good idea of what I was signing up for, and I was not expecting a Kona-like or world championship feel, so to not get that, was expected. I totally enjoyed the experience and am glad that I went and raced. That said, some more thoughts about it:
I’ll start with good things, although of course so many of these have already been said: First, certainly easier to travel as an American on the east coast. Less expensive. Countless restaurants and hotels right close by the race venue. As someone who lives where it is not particularly hot it was also admittedly pretty nice to not have to run a marathon that felt like I was on the surface of the sun. The bike course was indeed amazing and gorgeous and super fun to descend. Cycling is a strong suit for me so for the most part I found it enjoyable, even though the ride took me much longer than any other Ironman I have ever done. Just a very cool experience.
My main gripe about this race is, to me, it did not in the slightest bit feel like a world championship. It did not feel like there was any of the hype leading up. There is definitely a certain vibe in Kona that you have that was completely absent here. Like usually there is a line of press and people taking pictures of bikes and tossing you a new shirt from the company who made your bike or a hat from Shimano or just random stuff like that. I’m pretty sure I have nearly teared up at body marking in Kona because the volunteers are all clapping as you enter and congratulating you just for showing up, but by comparison in Nice we all mostly were just stuck in a barely moving security line to have our bags inspected before we could enter transition. This is not a knock on any volunteers, anyone I encountered did a wonderful job, again, it was just a totally different feel.
Then, again in terms of feel, with the nature of the run course (which I’ll also come back to in a second) you are just running back and forth on the same 5K stretch of road over and over again. So when you come to the finish, there isn’t really anything special about it the way there is something special about that final run down Alii Drive. Now, again, I am probably pretty biased as I’m getting older and have been around the sport quite a long time, and maybe this will all change in coming years. But I felt really almost nothing crossing the line in Nice. Like it was nice to be done, but it didn’t feel particularly special or unique.
That said, let’s also discuss the fact that they charge the same amount for this race as they do for a WC in Kona. I left there wondering where the heck that extra money went. How do they justify charging that much? I already think that Kona can barely get away with charging that much but at least they have the excuse that it’s Kona, you can’t race there any other day, and everything is more expensive in Hawaii. Not the case in Nice. I think the only extras we got that I wouldn’t get at a regular Ironman were a poster, a towel, and a long-sleeved finisher shirt rather than short-sleeved. I enjoy racing Ironman and I enjoyed that race, but if you are going to charge me twice as much as almost any other race I could just sign up for, you really need to give me something I can’t get elsewhere. Now, again, I am old enough to remember when Ironman was $400 and the upcharge for Kona was that it was $425 and we had to pay with a check. But after having that experience in Nice once, I feel like there is zero need for me to go back there and race again. Even with a good experience in general, it just absolutely was not worth that extra money to me.
Another note regarding the vibe and the feel of it, the city sort of swallows up the event. Maybe some wouldn’t see this as a negative, and that’s fine. But, again, if I am going to a WC event I want to feel like I am part of a big event and see evidence of it. Most places you wouldn’t have even known anything was going on. Most notable was the fact that the swim course didn’t get set up until the day of the race. When you have Kona where everyone swims in the same spot every morning, and then you go to Nice where you barely see anyone in the water and the ones you do see are just sort of swimming randomly, it’s just a little strange and almost eerie. It just does not feel like somewhere a big race is about to happen. The swim course itself on race day seemed fine to me (although I am pretty sure it was short, which is something else I have not seem discussed anywhere) but I like Kona better there.
I also think Kona has the edge on the run. I agree with absolutely anyone and everyone who thinks the Nice bike course is amazing and “WC-worthy” or whatever you want to say about it. But by comparison, the run is just outrageously uninspiring, and dare I say, too easy. A mental challenge for sure in that you just run back and forth. But do we really want a run course with barely more than no elevation so that the entire run is pretty much a non-factor? And I say this as someone who is not a good runner really especially in terms of hills. But to me that is absolutely not “WC-worthy.” I’m sure logistically it makes life WAY easier. But mostly it’s just… blah.
Again, overall a good experience and I enjoyed it and think they did a good job and I knew what I had signed up for. But is it an experience I’d care to repeat? Not really. The harder question for sure is what to do moving forward in terms of alternating venues or changing venues all together. I don’t know the right answer there. I agree that it does seem better for women to have their own day. And totally agree I was SO glad to be descending without worrying about over-eager men trying to zip by me. But I don’t know how to do the split venue in a sustainable way where you get enough women into the race. I think a lot of women like me aren’t really interested in going back to Nice again. The flip side is there are certainly also women I heard from who had to DNF on the bike and want to go back again and finish what they started. Also should probably add that I am someone who has no interest in racing a 70.3 WC because in my eyes, while the whole 2-day race thing in theory is a good idea, the fact that it means there are what, like 5000+ athletes in the same venue on the same weekend? It just seems WAY too crowded and is not something I want to participate in. I’d much rather visit and race a cool venue when they have a “normal” race there and I’m not fighting with 2-3 times as many people for hotel rooms and restaurant space. Part of me would admittedly also love to go back to a 1-day Kona where everyone races at the same time. I realize this is unlikely, and also admittedly also have mixed feelings about that because even for the age group women we become second-class citizens stuck in the last waves of the day after ALL of the men get to go first. And that absolutely doesn’t feel right either. I wish there was an easy solution.
I’ve already gone on long enough and my thoughts were a bit all over the place, but I had definitely been thinking a lot about these things for the past 2 weeks and wanted to share my thoughts on it. I am sure there will be many differing opinions on this, although what has been most interesting to me reading in recent weeks (I had been unable to post for a while since the forum change because I couldn’t log in until recently) was how many people had such strong opinions about it when they weren’t actually there. But I also wonder how easy it’s going to be to get women especially so sign up for these WC events in random venues when they are extra expensive and in my eyes we don’t really get anything more for that money.
Thanks for the thoughts. The most import thing is - it’s NOT Kona. I know this is not exactly a true World Championships - it’s self declared by IM - another discussion for another day, but in most Sports like this, the World Championships moves around to different venues. It’s NOT the same race course every year. My Wife has raced at the UCI Masters World Road Cycling Championships 3X and each time it’s been in a different location, and each time the courses they raced on for the Road Race and the ITT were very different.
Didnt see the air quality running neat the airport on that section on the run course mentioned in the article. I distinctly remember myself at 70.3 worlds trying to run thru there as quickly as possible
This year there was a steady easterly (which meant a headwind both across the plateau (roughly 90 to 135km) but particularly on the run: the return 5.3km heading back to the finish was typically (Philipp/Matthews/Sodaro) a minute slower than the tailwind run out to the airport environs. So I suggest no drop in air quality that end: hence no mention.
In 2019, iirc, there was little breeze down in Nice (eg along PdA) so can quite believe you detected reduced air quality there.
Nice uses the seaward runway for takeoffs and the easterly on 22 Sep 2024 meant aircraft exhaust detritus on ‘full gas’ was dumped (centred) 700m away from the run turn around and blown away towards Cagnes-sur-Mer.
Now that’s research!